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Bashaga Accuses National Conference Presidency of Attempting to Hamper Dialogue


In an interview with Libya Almostakbal website, boycotting MP who is participating in the Sukheirat dialogue, Fathi Bashaga, said, “We agreed with the UN delegation that the political dialogue is ours, whereas the security solution is in the hands of the rebels”.
In response to a question on coordination among the boycotting members of parliament and the National Conference delegation during the negotiations in the Moroccan city of Sukheirat, Bashaga said that he and MP Suleiman Al Faqi went to the Conference members, “and tried to address the misunderstandings between us and come to an understanding that dialogue is a main requirement, and that there is no alternative to dialogue”. Bashaga added that the only solution is dialogue, agreement, compromise and participation. He pointed out that there are differences in opinion with the Conference, “but we are realistic and I do not blame them … perhaps they are slightly separated from reality but we, Sheikh Suleiman al Faqih and the group with us are realistic, we know the reality and we understand our capacities very well. This revolution must be crowned by a state, a state that brings together all the Libyans”.
Bashaga stated in this interview that the members of the Conference delegation refused to participate with the boycotting members of parliament, explaining that this is not a sound stand because there are others on the ground that must be engaged in the dialogue, namely us, the boycotting MPs, as well as the municipal councils.
On the role of the Libyan Dawn Forces in the dialogue and the security arrangements, Bashaga said: “We insisted from the beginning to the international emissaries in Tripoli, including Bernardino Leon and the country ambassadors, that the political dialogue is ours and the security belongs to the rebels. The UN, after the decision of the Constitutional Court, attempted to contact the rebels with the launch of the Geneva 1 dialogue, held a meeting with them in Zuwara city and attempted to contact the National Conference, while the Conference is always hampering and refusing.”
Bashaga said “there are those who accuse Libyan Dawn of terrorism, and this is incorrect, because Libyan Dawn is not terrorist. Moreover, the visit by Leon to Tripoli and the communication between the UN and the leaders of the Arab Dawn confirms that we are not terrorists, and it voids Parliament’s decision that classified Libyan Dawn as terrorists”. He stressed that Tripoli is the only legitimate capitol of Libya, and that Leon’s recent visit is considered a guarantee to the leaders of Libyan Dawn that they would not be prosecuted.
In his assessment of the performance of the parties to the dialogue, Bashaga said that the National Conference delegation is skilled and empowered, but were not granted full authorization. They are under pressure from the National Conference presidency, which is attempting to impose its opinion and draws its authority from a passing strength. He added that it influences the members of the Conference, then the progress of the Conference, and finally impacts the Conference dialogue committee.
As for parliament’s delegation, Bashaga said, “They are also subject to influences within parliament, but the negotiation committee in the last session was able to secure a decision from parliament because they were given full powers to sign and reject, and now they are strong and immune to the power struggles within parliament.
Bashaga talked about the court decision related to the status of parliament and its convention in Tobruq. He said that the mere convention of parliament and the Conference is a compliance with the court’s decision. “We all admitted that our problem in Libya is political, and that it is larger than the court’s decision. Parliament has no legitimacy but it enjoys the legitimacy of election. We start from the legitimacy of election. Similarly, the Conference became the supreme council of the state, and this is in compliance with the court’s decision.”
– On the difficulties facing the dialogue in Sukheirat, Bashaga said that “the dialogue took 9 months, which is not a short period of time. He stressed that the UN did not impose anything and it did not set conditions or items for the dialogue. The items were set in Geneva (1). Each group sat on its own and created a vision for the dialogue, then we all sat together. However, the Conference was absent. We amended the items, deleted some, agreed on others, and added more items. There was strong controversy and conflict over this draft. On the other hand, the media followed institutions and persons who have no interest in this agreement. In view of the absence of professional media outlets, there is distortion. For example, we find in the Sukheirat dialogue that the public opinion in Musrata is very good and supportive of the dialogue, but in the most recent dialogue the confidence in the parties to the dialogue was undermined, because those with money and a media and advertising voice, without credibility, neutrality, nationalism or an interest in the country’s wellbeing, attempt to spread lies and misguide the people. We find that in spite of their media capabilities that there is a stronger voice. When we returned to Sukheirat we were able to recover the people’s confidence after direct communication. We explained to them the truth, that they fears are justified, and that this draft will not be perfect for us or the other party, but it is perfect for saving the country. I confirm that no controversial person will be present in the next government”.
Bashaga added, “we do not talk of people or positions, we talk of dialogue and drafts to create a new constitution for Libya, that is why we are in a dialogue. We are creating the roadmap to save Libya. We are not judges or prosecutors to press charges. You see that the two parties are Libyan, and each party believes it is the truth, the only truth in the universe. However, the state institutions will return, as will the judiciary and the prosecution, and those who have committed crimes against the Libyan people, murdered, attacked the public and democratic institutions of the Libyan people, and desired to reinstate the dictatorship in the country, will be identified. We as parties to the dialogue have created the road map for the new constitutional agreement and how to achieve harmony and coordination among the Libyan institutions. We have avoided the interference by the authorities in the new draft and have entirely separated the powers from each other. We have created a mechanism for creating the powers and supporting them within the body of the state”.
– In his talks about the rise of the Islamic State organization in Sirt after the Shurouq Operation, Bashaga said that there was a vacuum in the state and in its institutions, and it is natural for terrorist organizations to grow. The Islamic State took advantage of the security vacuum and political conflict in the country. However, in reality, the Islamic State was ready and had an international, not a local, background. It operated with a global mindset and always seeks contradictions. It can only live in contradiction, and thus it is in the interest of the IS for problems and wars to prevail in the country. It is only interested in contradictions so that it can move freely. Here, the idiots come in who believe they can benefit from IS and attempt to direct IS to strike a certain entity in their interest.
He said that this organization does not rely on strong military confrontation, but rather relies on bombings, terrorization, vandalism, barbaric and qualitative operations to drain the countries or cities, as it cannot conduct a confrontation in a military war unless it is limited and it can withdraw quickly. As for Misrata, it will defend itself. However, fighting this organization in Sirt or in any other city is the war of all Libyans, not Misrata alone. Misrata will not go to Sirt and fight, nor will it go anywhere else. This is the responsibility of the Libyan state and the responsibility of all the Libyans. We will not allow anyone to involve us in a war against ISIS in Sirt, but we will defend our city, and we will not allow ISIS to pass from Misrata to another city.